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Musiic Cd that breaks the limits of 1000 !?

nandhi — Wed, 26 Dec 2007 00:23:31 GMT

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Cave of the Siddhars is the sacred transmission of powerful and potent mantras and meditative energies that have been passed down through an ancient lineage of enlightened Sages, the Siddhars of South India. Accompanied by the didgeridoo, harp, singing bowls, djembe, udu, gongs, flute and other instruments, each track of Turiya Nada 's "Cave of the Siddhars" will take you on a mystical spiritual journey that will both delight and transform you!

Experience it- www.nandhi.com/music.htm

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The Path of the Heart

kanch_bud — Tue, 17 May 2005 04:42:11 GMT

1. The ego gets off on the juice of drama from it's mentations. It is not 'wrong', it simply doesn't have the intrinsic power to align with truth.
2. It introjects the thought of 'I' between the Self and experience, quicker than the mind can detect, claiming authorship of experience instead of Divinity.
3. The Spiritual Will, empowered by assent from the seeker and devotional energy, intervenes to identify the source of the juice.
4. The Spiritual Will turns away from the juice, the drama, the attachment.
5. The ego collapses all on its own.

How to align with high attractor fields:

- Pray, express intent, and actually ask God to be aligned with truth.
- Simply be aware of the feeling of one's own existence throughout daily activities.
- Simply accept and appreciate that which you are.
- Understand the world and results are impersonal and "pretty much autonomous".
- Love, show caring, practice kindness, embody compassion, give service, pay appreciation, express gratitude, to all beings at all times.
- Cultivate caring habits.
- Look at the lesson in the karmic situation, and seek to give your all in dedication to lovingness.
- Dedicate actions to excellence.

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How to surrender; dealing with resistance and pain

kanch_bud — Tue, 17 May 2005 04:32:06 GMT

The exchange below happens on Dr Hawkins speaking on beyondtheordinary.net . I thought it might be helpful to put the how of surrendering resistance up here. I think it's a common choice many spiritual seeker make a lot. It is from the radio show on 9/14/04.

The questioner asks "if all experience arises from resistance, then how is walking in the woods resistance?"

Here's Hawkins answer:

"You're seeing the wood from a specific locality called I or myself. When that disappears the experiencing is not from a specific locality but more like a generality as tho you are the woods.

"A: It's a very high state to go into, a state of peace, and the witnessing seems to happen on its own. The sense of a personal I disappears, and the phenomena are occuring spontaneously on their own without any reference to a specific perceiver.

"Q: So is all experience is due to resistance?

"A: One can witness without experiencing.

"Q: But what's the resistance?

"A: In ordinary life negative feelings are due to resistance, and by relenquishing the thought in ordinary life you disappear it as an experiental phenomenon.

"For example let's say there's a baby crying in the back of the bus, and it's annoying you. As long as you resist it the baby's gonna keep annoying you. When you suddenly relent to it it just melds in with the rest of the noise in the bus and doesn't bother you anymore.

"Q: Okay. So you're talking about surrendering?

"A: Letting go of resisting. It's most phenomenal use is letting go of negative
things when you got a problem."

Warm regards, PB.

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Business and Spiritual Power

kanch_bud — Tue, 17 May 2005 04:19:29 GMT

This man seems to be working to introduce power as David Hawkins defines it into business for the last few decades. I find his example inspiring, because like Hawkins he was led to nonlinear dynamics as a way to describe his work.

Most interesting for me is the notion that a company should be visible and invisible, linear and nonlinear, and his sense that the greater and more important part of a business should be invisible, and the way he has sought to embody his ideas, which reflects in the business sphere a great deal of the inner work of Hawkins through the same period:

Profile of Dee Hock at:

http://www.fastcompany.com/magazine/05/deehock.html

"In effect, Senge explains, Hock is looking to transform the workplace from a dictatorship, however benign, to something resembling a democracy."

Warm regards,

Paul Bard

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New tribe: Religion For the Non-Religious

kanch_bud — Thu, 09 Jun 2005 03:10:59 GMT

http://Reli4NonReli.tribe.net/

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the diversity and unity of spiritual paths to advanced awareness

kanch_bud — Tue, 17 May 2005 04:51:13 GMT

It would seem that since Advanced Awareness is nothing personal, and since
it is a blessing given by alignment with God, then there are two options for
daily contemplation:

If you sense the Presence, then be Aware of it continuously through the day
by whatever means.

OR

If you do not sense the Presence, practice worship continuously through the
day by whatever means, with faith that will bring the Awareness of the Presence of God into consciousness.

This would seem to be the curriculum of the Course as I understand it.

Constant interruptions and distresses will intervene, which makes it necessary to have a single action which takes you all the way to enlightenment. These are:

- Jesus: forgive.

- Hawkins: surrender your position.

- Krishna: dedicate to Me.

- Buddha has a whole range of actions that can be taken, from the four
fundamental truths: taking refuge in Him, compassion meditation, giving and
taking suffering on the breath, and so on.

- Nisargadatta was simple: when distressed return to the "I am".

- Likewise, Ramana Maharishi advized to constantly return to the question
"Who (Hawkins says "what") am I?"

- Other teachers propose a mindfulness of the in- and out-breath through the
day.
- The Course in Miracles proposes letting go and letting God, much as Hawkins does.

All these measures seem to work for both the path of purification and the path of advanced awareness. Deconstructing dualism and surrendering cause and effect seem to happen automatically according to Hawkins.

Worship would seem to be the path which attracts Divine Aid in bringing
oneself to Awareness. And once the Awareness of the Presence, otherwise
known as the Holy Spirit, is a conscious experience in the linear 500s, then
one naturally enjoys growing more.

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The path of purification of the ego

kanch_bud — Tue, 17 May 2005 04:48:28 GMT

The path of purification of the ego seems obviously to do with forgiveness and, well, purification!

In the light of recent experience I have returned to the more 'zen' chapters of
this book, such as 'Advanced Awareness' and 'Dialogues' seeking to understand what Hawkins means by the path of consciousness with a bit more humility.

All external advice refers to surrender. Give up, turn away, look inwards,
release, let go...

All internal advice refers to abstract-sounding things, the 'spiritual will',
inspiring the 'will'. Hawkins refers to how worship is an entreaty for the Higher Power to support one's spiritual endeavour, which makes sense: the purification activities become inspirational and impersonal ways to higher states for this path of consciousness. He refers to various externals such as incense or music having beauty "which is like perfection" and therefore
inspirational quality.

But the main (perhaps the only thing) is this intentional turning away of
awareness, constantly and unyieldingly, inspired by the spiritual will to something invisible to the rest of humanity. Hawkins says:

"The search is progressively within to discover the source of the knowingness of the sense of 'I'"

And:

"In the process of spiritual discovery, one looks instead to discover what it is
that is aware of and has to authority to sense the existence of 'I-ness' or the quality of 'I-ness'."

It seems the aspect of 'I' which is aware of existence and itself can only be so
because God supports this impersonal aspect of awareness. So worship is the way to request the support of these aspects of awareness, and then they become progressively self-fulfilling and more recognised. To the ego worship is absurd, or an attempt to 'please' or 'appease' a vengeful God.

But the obvious response to not feeling the Presence would be to inwardly engage in worship of the Divine in one's everyday existence, intentionally making each act an expression of appreciation and gratitude to the Divine.

The advanced awareness Hawkins talks of reveals itself when such an attitude of worship, praise, appreciation, and gratitude to the Divine is present, because advanced awareness only comes about "as a consequence of the greater Awareness".

Blessings,

PB.

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Prakriti and Purusha

kanch_bud — Tue, 17 May 2005 04:29:38 GMT

I was reading Krishna, who is uncommonly clear on mentation, in the Uddhava Gita last night.

Uddhava, his discipline, asked him which scientific "theory of everything" about how the universe was put together was accurate. Krishna then rather brilliantly listed about twenty different theories current at the time, in a few words each, and said that they are all true!!

Then he explained that:

- purusha looks onto prakriti, and empowers it to become real.

Hawkins uses one of these technical terms, the "purusha". Purusha is
the technical term for the "presence of God" or the "holy spirit". In Hawkins' terms the Purusha manifests in the 500s from the Kundalini and inspires vision and erases perception.

But Hawkins no-where mentions Prakriti, the technical term which
means "the pattern that the Divine makes as it manifests". And that is a great pity, because I think Krishna's quote can explain an awful lot, such as why calibrators get different results, why a piece of science can be useful in one century and useless in another, and what positionalities are.

Krishna's rhetorical mode is to include and assimilate other
traditions explicitly including the science of his time, while Hawkins is quite ambiguous about scientific knowing. One the one hand it can relieve most human suffering (Eye), and on the other it is the major
block to enlightenment in most people these days. And on still a
third hand (!) Hawkins uses nonlinear dynamics, a logarithmic scale, and quantum physics to provide explanations for his findings!

My theory is that the process of coming-to-know a thing, the
epistemological process, alters the nature of the thing itself. So when I calibrate a thing at 450, and another at below 200, we create a kind of a karmic trace that contributes in a tiny way towards the overall potential perception of his consciousness, to the potentialities
available to Kevin Williams himself (perception being a kind of
prayer that enables or disables the person perceived). The ability of perception to gloss over discrepancies in perception is made blatantly obvious by the K-test, which exposes differences in perception in the K-tester quite ruthlessly, much like an inner guru.

In a significant way, when one calibrates, the potential truth becomes actual truth, the indeterminate quantum wave of subjectivity collapsing into a simple yes-no question. The falsehood of everyday life gives way to the desire to know truth absolutely, and since the calibration itself calibrates at 600, it leaves a powerful trace behind. The karmic choice to know truth would seem to be very powerful in and of itself, which is why I feel strongly that everyone who has an interest in truth can calibrate.

Anyhow getting back to the Krishna quote: It would seem that the pattern of knowingness in the universe is only real and alive when the Presence of the
divine looks on it. Otherwise it is just a dead tissue of ideas, a positionality, and a futile mentation. This explains why so many scientists are deeply religious people. The ability to do accurate science would seem to be dependent not on one's ability to know (prakriti), but on one's ability to
perceive the Presence of the Holy Spirit (purusha).

An example of prakriti infused with purusha is the writings of the avatars which although they are often second hand recordings can frequently be luminous and inspiring. But even to hear about or read the scientists at 499 such as Freud, Einstein, Darwin and Newton can be enormously powerful and inspiring to intellectual pursuit. Darwin for all his detractors is full of the sacred wonder of life in his writing, and inspired by a desire for truth alone as
he understands it.

Hawkins has stated that truth is subjective. My feeling is that ALL truth is subjective, even his and yours and mine. So whatever shines purusha on prakriti for you is fine by me!

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social conditions for a leap in consciousness? social conditions for a leap in consciousness?

kanch_bud — Tue, 17 May 2005 04:17:39 GMT

My understanding is that the field of power is infectious. Once you are it, it
potentiates others access to it. But I understand from Dr Hawkins that this is only a potentiality, and that an actual leap in consciousness only occurs when the conditions are in place for it.

Where I get caught here is with seeing social and economic conditions
supporting power.

Obviously a person stuck in poverty, or in jail, or homeless may experience a
breakthrough in consciousness. But it seems more likely to me that a
psychiatrist, a scholar, or a spiritual healer will experience such a breakthough in consciousness, because they have more of the supporting conditions for such a state to go from potential to actual.

Hawkins teaches surrender, humility, avoiding falsehood and adopting truth. But he also teaches (in 'Eye') that in practice many people cannot afford the seeming high price of integrity, despite paying lip service to "honesty" and "transparency".

One could extrapolate from this that appearence of power coincides with specific economic conditions that potentiate it, giving the freedom and leisure to pursue spirituality; and the appearence of new social classes that calibrate higher than previous generations propagates and reinforces such a pursuit in specific social areas, such as those around the West coast of the United States.

Following Jesus' time in Western Eurasia a monastic class who I calibrate in the 500s appeared. The conditions for this to occur were the social and economic vacuum of the fall of the Roman Empire, which created the demand for the socially useful and economically valuable role of caring and compassionate monks. I see that the appearence occured as
part of the field effect of Lord Jesus, acting on history through long term
power rather than through force.

Likewise, the appearence of the Chinese bureaucracy in China after Confucius, and the appearence of the world's first middle class in India after Buddha due to the enterprise of Buddhist merchants, my perception is that the appearence of an avatar precedes the appearence of specific social and economic conditions which allow for numbers of higher-calibrating people to be sustained by society.

One may expect, if this perception is accurate (and I have no way of knowing if it is or not)that the appearence of Dr Hawkins at present with his high calibration will trigger alterations in the world's social system towards conditions that allow for the emergence of a social class of enlightened people whose main members calibrate over 600 in LoC.

Any thoughts, comments?

Paul Bard.

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Spiritual Success Vs Worldly Winning

kanch_bud — Tue, 17 May 2005 04:12:23 GMT

We hear a lot about worldly success, and I have been wondering for some time how to contextualise worldly goals with spiritual intentions, and asking myself what spiritual success is.

This quote from the marvellous Beyond The Ordinary interviews with Dr Hawkins helped answer that question for me:

"The inspiration to evolve spiritually is already a manifestation of the
presence of God within, and it's certainly indicative of good karma. Just to want to know truth, to evolve, to improve oneself, to become a better person, to fulfill one's potential – those are all inspirations. And the person doesn't make them up; they just come to them. It's like an innate desire to fulfill your potential.

That potential as one evolves it becomes more and more identified in
spirituality – the capacity to love, to forgive, to appreciate, to see the beauty in all that exists, to live in peace and harmony instead of discord and strife.

And I'll tell you what happens. It becomes more important to succeed than to
win. Anybody can win. It doesn't mean anything. It's success.

So spiritual evolution is the willingness to give up games and seeming wins for a greater goal which is the evolution of your own consciousness… to give up selfishness because what is the ego except selfishness in all its desires…

The universe responds to the willingness to surrender that. As I said it's like
an electrostatic field. You start praying to God for spiritual guidance and all and your life begins to change.

It unfolds automatically…The only requirement is to do whatever you do to the best of your capacity and leave the rest up to God."

Quote taken from Dr Hawkins 02/10/04
( http://beyondtheordinary.net/drhawkins.shtml )

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Force in the Khmer Rougue and the Power of Integrity

kanch_bud — Tue, 17 May 2005 04:09:55 GMT

I recently found a book of pictures of people condemned to death by the Khmer Rouge.

Many of them had just had their blindfolds taken off after having been carted in trucks all night, and some had just been beaten. Their "confessions" under torture and their head shots were preserved by the Khmer Rouge as evidence of their "betrayal". One confessed, for instance, to accidentally allowing the lighting in a government event to go off, and "due to the lack of money in the Party" confessed that he had shamed the party and deserved to die.

These people elicited two distinct reactions. First was the emotion of outrage and anger, and second was the desire to understand what led these people to this extreme. I learnt in the essay that a desire to please authority, extreme poverty, a hatred of what was perceived to be buddhist ethics, and domination by fear and shame gave rise to these events in Cambodia.

Prosperity in my opinion is part of the defense against this kind of outcome. It would seem to me that even a handful of people in the 300 levels of consciousness present in such a population might avoid such a situation in future.

The material and personal goals of the 300s and 400s have their own context which supports life. I suppose one cannot compare the goals and views of this realm with the spiritual goals of the 500s. But in my opinion spirituality includes the materialistic and personal goals into a broader context without any conflict at all.

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